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Editor's Note: Late last year Paul Yaffe visited Australia to be a part of the country’s leading biker event, the Gold Coast Bike Week, held on Queensland’s sunny Gold Coast. Heavy Duty magazine and Bikernet contributor Glenn Priddle took pics of the event and interviewed Paul.
Paul, welcome to Australia.
PY:Thank you for having me.
Are you enjoying Gold Coast Bike Week?
PY:Yep, sure am. This is my first time to Australia and it’s been a fantastic trip. The people here are very warm and friendly and the Custom Central guys are a great bunch of guys. The bikers here are just like they are all over the world; they’re enthusiastic, passionate and love the lifestyle.
How did your visit come about?
PY:Brad Parpit, the owner of Custom Central and Australian Motorcycle Importers and I have been working together over the past 8 months to get Paul Yaffe’s Original product line and the Bagger Nation’s product line in their warehouses and into their shops. Now we’re starting to build some bikes for them. It just seemed to make sense, the timing was good. We just sent them a couple of containers that they received – they’ve got a big Paul Yaffe display in their store that I wanted to see. I want to turn it into kind of a kiosk and do some point of purchase stuff for it; packaging and signage and that type of stuff.
It just made sense to come out. This is Brad’s first year being part of Australia’s Gold Coast Bike Week. It worked out to come down, put faces to names, meet his crew, and offer any assistance I can in any of his purchasing or choices.
Where is his shop?
PY:It’s near Brisbane; specifically it’s at 682 Beaudesert Road, Rocklea. It’s a brand new shop and he’s done a really nice job with it. It’s a big shop. They’re carrying full lines of my stuff, plus West Coast Choppers, Custom Chrome, several different exhaust lines. They’ve got an excellent clothing store upstairs with all kinds of lifestyle clothing – it’s really nicely done.
Is it just parts and accessories?
PY:No, it’s parts and service. They’re doing some custom builds there and stuff and some fabrication. He has a separate dealer network which is Australian Motorcycle Imports that is his dealer-based wholesale company and that’s two huge warehouses several miles away from shop that are filled with product. It’s very impressive, an amazing warehouse.
How does the Australian bike scene as exemplified by Bike Week compare with the American scene from what you’ve seen so far?
PY:Mmm, how would you compare it? Well, it’s smaller though I want to say it’s very similar, you know what I mean? I feel like I’m at an Easyriders Rodeo, basically, it’s that kind of thing. If there was camping out on the grass and at night there was the zoo, you know, out on the campgrounds, it would be just like an Easyriders Rodeo. Lots of spectators, fun and games, dynos, bike games, bands, shows, girlies – you know, it’s all the things bikers love.
They love to come out and see all this. The fans of motorcycles too, just seein’ all the different brands and seein’ all kinds of people’s work. You know, hooking up with different shops and stuff that they might not have known about. It’s great place to network for the whole motorcycle industry I’m sure.
How do you find riding on the right side of the road?
PY:Weird, really weird to start with! It’s hard enough just being in a car on the wrong side of the road. Every time we’d go around a corner and a car would come I’d say, ‘oh my god, we’re gonna head on!’ So that was startling.
Then a few days ago, I got on a bike and I rode with a bunch of guys, so that wasn’t too bad, I just kinda followed their lead, you know. Then the next day, I got up in the morning and everybody had left, so I was on my own and totally got lost, went all the way down to the beach, halfway down the Coast. That was a little weird including the fact that I went into oncoming traffic twice, but managed to see what I was doing and stopped in time.
It’s just what you’re used to, so, it’s cool. We went up into the canyons the other day, to where that natural bridge is up there. It was absolutely beautiful, like riding up into a rain forest. It was gorgeous, great riding.
How long have you been in business?
PY:This is my 22nd year.
Most of Australia would know about you through the Discovery Biker Build Off Series. You were really riding a wave then as that show really made media celebrities of builders.
PY:It sure did, it certainly did, and it changed that part of our lives.
Put you on the map for the public, so to speak?
PY:Yeah! Well, as ‘Paul Yaffe Originals’ – as a brand name and as a recognised builder in the country – we were very successful before the Biker Build Offs. We had a very successful parts catalog with many distributors in Europe and in the States, so business-wise we were doing very well. But I didn’t walk through an airport and have people ask for my autograph, which now happens and that’s a bit weird.
During the three or four years when they were airing them, and we did the four shows, there were probably around 20 different other shows we did also. We did one for NBC TV, we did travel channel stuff and we did American Thunder Episodes and Speed Vision Specials – we did a lot of shows. I think about 40. We have a four-hour loop of shows that runs in the shop.
It got crazy and then the shows started hiring us as celebrities to come and do autographs and sign posters and that was pretty weird too. I think I’m lucky as it never really went to my head, it was just somethin’ to do, you know, ‘Glad You want me to come and hang around, we’re all gonna have some fun’. I didn’t change my business plan, I didn’t go buy some huge expensive shop or start treatin’ myself like a rock star.
It was kinda fun while it lasted and there are new shows coming up all the time and we’re happy to do what we can, but things in the industry are settling down and getting back to normal and that’s fine with me.
Well, you can probably get on with what you really want to do eh?
PY:Sure, Sure. It’s been very nice here to walk around. People say ‘hi’ and ‘nice to meet you’, whatever, but in the United States there’s a different air about it. People are more … well, they are almost of the opinion that they know you because they’ve seen you on TV and they act like they’re your best friend and that’s somewhat intrusive at times. Australians seem a bit different, it’s, ‘Hey, nice to meet ya, I’ll let ya have some space’. It’s very nice, very nice.
Did the Discovery Series make a big difference with your sales?
PY:No, no, I wouldn’t say so. We were crazy busy before it started. I’d say for the past 10 years, maybe more, we’ve constantly had 40 –50 pretty high end crazy ‘ground-up’ builds. My company is also a little more diverse than most. I have my parts catalogs, I have my distributor businesses, and I also am part of several design teams for different corporations like Custom Chrome, SuperTrapp a couple of different wheel companies that I do design work for.
Actually, I do a lot of royalty-type design work. I’m on a couple of engineering teams, problem solving stuff like that. I also have a retail store and I also have a service business. If choppers slow right down, I’ve got plenty of other things to do. Some of the guys that are so focused, the guys that do big ‘ground-ups’ and I think those guys are really hurting. For us, you know, the fab shop just started makin’ more handlebars instead of building more custom frames. We’re just doin’ something different and they were actually happy with it.
The ‘ground-up; customs can get a little stressful, ‘cause they’re so involved. Our engineering standards at our shop are, well let’s say I’m a fairly tough guy to satisfy. I’m so much about the riding; it’s not so much the show as much as the bike has to be totally rideable when it’s done and reliable too. I’m tooting my own horn here but we do a really good job. We have a very reliable and very durable bike. I don’t usually see my customers unless they chip the paint. Or need an oil change. Once I build the bikes they love ‘em.
So would your philosophy be considered Function over Form?
PY:I’m very motivated by form …
But you’re still thinking it has to be functional?
PY:Oh yeah! I wouldn’t head off in a direction that won’t work, just to look cool. Sometimes I see some of the wild stuff they’re doin’ out there and part of me goes ‘I could do my own crazy stuff’ then I look at the bikes and think, ‘Well, that won’t work, it’s not rideable’. When I’m a judge at a show I’ll walk right past a great crazy lookin’ bike, ‘cause I know it’s got a half gallon gas tank and the chain’s already rubbin’ on both ends of the swing arm and so on. I think, ‘Who’d wanna ride that?’
The bikes I build, I ride ‘em to Sturgis, I ride ‘em to Daytona, my customers ride with me, we ride all over the country.
I’m a Hamster, which is all about riding custom motorcycles and we ride thousands of miles every month going to different events. That’s really what we’re about, and that’s why I got into this – because of my love of riding. You know what I mean? The custom stuff and the designs and stuff I do is to enhance that, and there’s some ego involved too, everybody likes cool stuff. To me it’s all about riding. I think our industry is settling back to being all about riding. And the people who treat this as a lifestyle and the love of the lifestyle are always gonna be doin’ stuff. They’re always gonna want cool stuff, wanting a set of handle bars or a set of pipes or whatever. The people that have jumped on the fad, or saw us on TV and thought, ‘I’m gonna make a million bucks and be a rock star’, well they’ve been disappointed and they’re going’ home with a few less bucks in their pocket and that’s fine with me too. Yeah, that’s quite fine with me. I really like this lifestyle, it’s what I live.
Well, I can witness that. I was with Keith Ball on the way to Sturgis and we were having a meal. Then we noticed that you were in the booth next to us at Flagstaff with your buddies and all your bikes lined up outside on your way there too.
PY:Yeah! 2008 was my 21st year of riding to Sturgis. I build a bike every year and ride it there.
That’s great.
PY:This year I copped out a little and I rode a bagger! Normally I’m on some little hard tail that kills me all the way there! But this year I took Suzy with me. It was a custom bagger, mind you!
Yeah! it wouldn’t be regular bagger.
PY:No, we put on 23 inch wheels, so on and so forth, but yeah, we rode the touring bike up there.
What’s your background?
PY:Well, that’s a kinda sordid tale, a little bit of it anyway. I mean, as a kid growing’ up I had all sorts of jobs, grocery bagger to whatever. Then I fell into a job managing a shoe company, a retail sales company. Through a chain of events – and here I’ll make a long story short – I ended up designing high end women’s shoes.
Really?
PY:Yeah.
Sorry, didn’t mean to laugh.
PY:That’s okay, I laugh at it too! I was very good at it. Because of my designs a huge international company was created but I hated it. While it was successful for me at an early age (I was very young, 18 or 19 years old at the time), I quickly found out that the fashion industry is not for me. It was not what I wanted to do, but it did afford me the ability to play with my motorcycles, which was just a hobby back then.
I liked doin’ stuff in my garage and then – long story short again – a lot of friends saw the stuff I was doin’ to my bike, they liked it and then it was ‘Hey, will ya do that to my bike?’ So we first started out doin’ stuff with buddies on the weekends in the garage. I just liked it and I wanted to learn more about it. Some of the natural talent I had was in fabrication, particularly metal bending. Sheet metal forming was something that came to me, absolutely self taught. But I wanted to learn more about four stroke engine theory, electrical theory and so on. I wanted to know the ins and outs and what makes ‘em tick from the bottom up. So I moved from Los Angeles where I was born and raised and went to Phoenix where the Motorcycles Mechanics Institute is located and I attended MMI for a year and a half.
In the United States that’s the official Harley Davidson training centre. You go through about six months of rigorous two and four stroke college, and then you actually get your hands dirty and get into all kinds of different aspects of mechanics. At the end of it you take about 6 months of classes of specific Harley Davidson theory learning about their cool V-twins. So I went through that always thinking that I’d move back to LA, but by the time I was done with school I’d kinda gotten comfortable with Phoenix, which was kinda a small town when I first moved there.
It’s not so small now.
PY:No, now it’s not! It’s unbelievable what’s happened there. I’m glad I bought some real estate early on!
How big is your shop?
PY:It’s 12,000 square feet.
How many staff?
PY:Twenty right now. The Bagger Nation stuff is doing very well.
Is it easy to find staff?
PY:No, absolutely not! None of my staff had any motorcycle experience when I hired them. I refuse to hire from within the industry.
Really?
PY:I won’t do it. Just a lot of bad experiences.
So you want to teach them yourself?
PY:What I do, is if I want a fabricator, I’ll go to a gate shop or a tech college and pull a welder out of there and teach him what he needs to know. My guys are career guys and they’re very well taken care of. They make a good living. They all have houses, mortgages, families, and 410ks. Some of my guys make about the same as I do. It’s well deserved; I’m only as good as my crew.
Are they mainly bikers?
PY:Well a couple of ‘em are. One of the oldest guys that works with me I went through school with. He’d moved to New Mexico and opened his own shop. He did it for several years then called me up and said he didn’t want to do it anymore. He loved motorcycles but just didn’t want to be the boss. So he asked if he could come and work for me. I said, ‘Hell yeah, you’re awesome’ and he’s been working’ for me forever. The guy that runs my whole shop, I initially hired him as a guy to sweep the shop and pick up. Now he runs the whole company. I protect myself, all my guys have contracts and non-disclosures and non-competes and so on. I basically tell ‘em, ‘You come and work for me and I’ll take care of you, but don’t think in three years you’re gonna split and go open your own place’ and we have the handshake and we have that agreement and they all stay. I have a very happy crew, they get along great, they’re practical jokers too which makes it a fun as well as a nice place to work and we get some really cool stuff done too.
It’s a simple equation eh, look after your staff and they’ll do the right thing?
PY:Yeah. Parts drivers will come and go but my fab team, my service team, my design team, my marketing team, my management – they’ve all been with me a long time. I think the least is 10 years.
Where do your creative juices come from, your parents?
PY:Well, I’m an orphan and adopted. My dad was a biker and he had an old Triumph Chopper and a couple of Enduros in the garage that I stole regularly as a kid. My parents certainly let me do stuff though. I had a kinda natural mechanical aptitude when I was young. I wanted to take everything in the house apart and see what I could do with it and they pretty much let me run with it.
They were a little uneasy the first time I put a welding kit in the house and they weren’t too happy, but they let me run with it! They’ve always been very supportive. I think my love of hot rod culture and bike culture comes from the fact that I was born and raised in the San Fernando Valley, California. And there are some people who would argue that that’s where the hot rod culture started from. I was out and about around town cruisin’ Van Nuys Boulevard when that was famous and they made movies about it. That’s what I grew up with. It’s what I know.
How did you get involved with the Hamsters?
PY:Well, you know it’s funny, when I was about 13 or14 years old, I had already had a love for cars and bikes and in my neighbourhood there was a local bike night at a diner and I’d take the bus over to that part of town then ride my skateboard to the bike night. Grady Pfeiffer, Billy Westbrook, and Don Hotop – all these guys would hang out there. They’d be there and all have these amazing bikes. I’d bug the heck out of them ‘Mr. Mr. Tell me about that … whatever’ and they’d go ‘Getaway kid’ but they were absolutely my heroes and my early inspirations.
That’s what got me into wanting’ to cut stuff up and get into custom motorcycles. And they were Hamsters. Now I’d never really had any great interest in shows, but through business and wanting to make a name for myself well, you go to shows and you show your bikes.
The first professional show I attended was the Laughlin River Run which I think was 1992. I brought out an FXR that I had done and they put me in the Radical Builders Class and I thought, ‘Oh, oh, I’m f**ked!’ I mean it was Arlen Ness, Donny Smith, Pat Kennedy, Dave Perewitz, Ron Finch – I could go on and on dropping’ names of guys that were all in this class and here I was, this little kid with long hair down to my ass, and I’m rolling’ this bike in and I can’t even talk! Anyway, long story short – I won the show!
Really?
PY:Yeah! I’ll remember it to this day. They called out my name and I almost fell over. Then some builders came over to me and basically said, ‘Who the f**k are you?’ We started talking…’
They were cool huh?
PY:Oh yeah! Totally, yeah, totally. Actually Keith Ball came over to me and said the same thing. I said, ‘I’m Paul and I’m from Phoenix and this is what I do’. He said ‘F**ken A!’ So, from that meeting, Keith wanted to do a Master Builder article, but I said, ‘Isn’t it just a little premature?’ as I felt I was just getting started.
Keith said, ‘No, it’s not.’ He’d just started the magazine VQ which had a feature called Master Builders, so in VQ#4 or something, I don’t exactly remember which issue; he made me the Master Builder. That was my first magazine article.
How old were you then?
PY:I was 29 and the article on me that he did really started things rolling’ and brought some attention to the shop. The guy I was sharing accommodation with at the time was working for Microsoft and he knew about the Internet, which practically nobody had heard of at the time, but he was part of developing it. He made me a website and back then nobody had a website. Well we just started rolling’. The parts that were on that bike I made by hand with a little mill at the shop and I just started makin’ 10 at a time. I started going to shows with my little parts in the back pack.
On that bike?
PY:Yep. The bike went on after that, to be the ‘International Show Car Association’ (ISCA) International Champion – so it won everything. It was huge. Now building it had been a little private passion of mine and I kept it hidden under a blanket in the corner of the shop and I’d work on it at night when everybody else had gone home.
About halfway through building it one of my customers called in very late one day and it was uncovered as I was working on it. At that time I didn’t have much money, and but if I made $5 I spent $5 on the bike. Well he said, ‘That thing’s amazing, finish it for me. Here’s a blank cheque. I don’t care what it costs, I just want you to have full reign for whatever you can dream up’.
Now this was in the early '90s and I made a huge headlight from a solid billet block. In fact I made tons of billet stuff; I was carving’ all night long. Now you just didn’t see much billet stuff back then, virtually nobody was doing anything in billet. Pro One wasn’t even a company doing billet mirrors and billet gas caps or whatever. Everything was die cast – the most radical thing you could get was a bullet turn signal from Drag Specialists for sixteen bucks – there was just no big ‘aftermarket’ at that point.
I also cut the swing arm and put a 180 tire in and, believe me, nobody back then had ever seen a tyre 180 on a bike.
You were way ahead of the times then?
PY:Well yeah, but it’s just what I thought was cool. Everything was smooth, there wasn’t a bolt on the bike and he eventually took delivery of it after letting me show it for a year and a half. I think he still has it. I wish I had a photo to show you.
You could say Keith did a lot getting you started then?
PY:Oh – yeah! He went on to be a mentor I guess, I would often call him and ask for advice. I’d also call Arlen Ness and say, ‘How do I get in the parts business? I’ve got these cool parts and I don’t wanna sell ‘em to CCI’ because at the time it was widely believed that they signed everything over to China and got ‘em copied. It wasn’t true, but that was the reputation they had. So Keith would give me advice, Arlen would give me advice along with other people I would also call.
Then Keith would come up with special projects – Keith’s always having some weird bike being built – he’d call me and say, ‘I’m doing this FXR Bagger and Jesse’s making me some aluminum saddle bags. When he’s done, I’m gonna have him send the bags to you. Why don’t you make a cool headlight and taillights to install with LED’s?’ We’d do that and then what he’d do is a tech article and write ups on ‘em and get us a lot brass. We were all cool to be working’ on Keith Ball’s bikes.
Yeah – you would have been.
PY:It worked out for him too ya know– he got some pretty cool stuff and it worked out for us – we got marketing we couldn’t afford. I got hooked up with Howard Kelly the editor of Hot Bike at the time and we became good friends and he also featured tons of my stuff. He was very instrumental in getting me published too with lots of magazine coverage. I really think that I am probably the most published builder in biker magazine history. We literally have something like 450 magazine features – that’s not including the write ups on what we make – I mean, just bike features! It’s staggering and includes around 200 covers. There’s so many I have ‘em in closets! I change them in the shop all the time as there’s no room to put them all on display.
You’re obviously proud of yourself for your achievements, as you have every right to be.
PY:Well I am very proud that I’ve been able to support myself for 22 years and I’m very happy that I’ve made a living doing something I love. I’ve taken care of my family and I’ve supported a lot of employees. I think we’ve made some terrific contributions to the motorcycle industry and lifestyle.
The ego part of me enjoys the fact that there are some styles that I credit myself with. I don’t need anybody else to agree with me, I know it! That’s the cocky side of me. I see certain things that I know I started. I don’t need to have anybody give me a plaque for it and I’m proud of that. Somebody asked me the other day, what goals I had, or what’s next for me? I said, well I don’t have nothing’ left to prove. I don’t walk around with some itch that needs scratching’.
I’m real comfortable and I’m happy with what I’ve accomplished. But as I get older, I’m getting a bit more business minded. I want to strengthen my business and I want to strengthen my parts catalogs and I want to expand my dealer and distributor networks When there’s a radical bike to be built, I’m in it every day, but the day-to-day operations I don’t handle that much. I walk around and see what’s going on – shake hands with my customers. I’m definitely accessible in my shop.
Most of me is marketing new products, catalog publishing, dealer and distributor relations. That’s the kind of stuff I’m handling. I’m good at it and there’s really no one else who can do it in my company. So I’m the guy that’s got to handle it. I’m the guy who’s gonna think of the new stuff – it’s gonna have my name on it .
What is next for you?
PY:I’m having tremendous fun with this bagger thing, I’m really diggin’ it. It’s almost like starting over in a way. I’m creating a new style for baggers that I’m really into. I’ve got my own thing I’m doing and it seems that everybody likes it. Which is so much better ‘cos it’s not much fun when everybody thinks it sucks.
The baggers haven’t taken of quite yet in Australia.
PY:It’s startin’ to. The guys from Custom Central have picked up the whole Bagger Nation line. We’re doing a couple of baggers for them now that we’re going to ship over here, probably in the next 6-8 weeks. I think there’s a lot of irresponsibility in a lot of bikes being done out there. Harley-Davidson’s engineering is 1000 times better than they are. If it wasn’t for Harley, none of this would exist.
You see it on my bikes; 98% of my customs have Harley-Davidson motors in ‘em. I remember when it used to be, when you wanted something custom, like that FXR I did, you took a stock bike, you chopped up the frame, you cut it in half, you cut it in 10 pieces. You did whatever you wanted with it and then put it back together and you had a custom bike. You couldn’t go buy an Atlas. Now, in the U.S. there are 700 frame makers doin’ the most crazy, stupid stuff. I do a custom Harley.
I love it when people get on their Big Dog or whatever – and say ‘Look at my Harley chopper’. You show me one part on that thing that’s Harley. Why say Harley chopper? It’s like the ‘Boss Hoss’ – they call them V8 Harleys – what’s that?
I love what Harley’s doin’ right now – I think they’re doin’ the best bikes they’ve ever done. I’m proud of them. If I had it my way I’d own a Harley-Davidson franchise. I would absolutely love to be an owner or partner in a Harley-Davidson franchise that would be a huge fantasy of mine; I would jump on that in a minute. Why I’ve never really aggressively pursued it I don’t know…..
Maybe it’s your next thing?
PY:I don’t know, maybe. I think what we’re going to start doing, is doing some different stuff for some different models. The Rocker needs some help.
Yeah, it does!
PY:The Cross Bones is cool and I can make it even cooler. Sportsters, Dynas, who knows? I’m going to start doing the Black Bagger Nation. I’m gonna start doing separate sections, celebrating certain styles of motorcycles. We’ll see how that works out. If Bagger Nation is any indication, that’ what you’ll be seein.'
What do have in your stable?
PY:I’ve got a few really radical customs that I’ve been working on for awhile. The Bagger Nation has taken me away from them and they’re sitting there collecting dust. We’ve got a pretty crazy aluminum-bodied bagger that I’m hammerin’ out right now that I’m not going to do anything with, it’s just a ‘cos I can kinda thing.
I’ve had a big love for Mercury’s for years,’49, ’50, ’51 Mercs. I have a ’49 so, I’m gonna do a bagger style after this ’49 Merc. Do you know what a Rapid Prototype Machine is? It’s an advanced method of computer design. Take this hat for example. I can design it in three dimensions on my computer, then I can take it and import it to the RPD Machine and the RPD Machine will produce it for me and I can take it out, decide if it’s right and then make them.
I can make nylon parts, I can make threads, I can bolt ‘em on, I can do practically anything with this Rapid Prototype Machine. I’m really kinda getting into it and learning. It’s something I’m teaching myself. I’m gonna make a lot of the parts on this Merc on the Rapid Prototype Machine. I’ve made stuff in the shop, like licence plate frames.
While we currently use it for practical purposes, I want to use it for some really cool shit comin’ up! It’s new technology to me though the car world has been using it and the airline world has been using it forever, but it’s new to me! It’s a really neat toy!
The American bike scene: How do you see the industry faring?
PY:I think it’s going through a cleansing. All the people rushed to the industry from the TV attention – the OCC stuff, etc. Now they’re all getting a rude awakening and a lot of ‘em are going home. We’ve all been living very high on the hog for the past 10 years and been enjoying unprecedented amounts of business.
The guys that have adjusted their business to deal with that, thinking that it was going to stay like that forever are hurting. Guys like me who just did what I do and stayed the same size and kept my little service shop, did my stuff. I’m fine. I’ve seen the slow down.
We’re stuck with a lot of inventory for sure. We have containers of frames and rolling chassis because the demand stopped like someone threw a switch. One week we’re shipping 20 a week, virtually the next day none! It stopped, just like that.
Our economy is not helping either. We’re having a lot of problems and foreclosures, a lot of people are really crashin’ at this time.
Do you think it’ll change after the election?
PY:I think it’s gonna take a couple of years. I think it’s going to be a slow and steady climb. Our industry is filled with lifelong life-stylers and those people will never go anywhere. It’s exciting to come here and see people approaching this industry with the same passion and the same love for the lifestyle that I’ve had since I was a kid. It’s totally exciting! It’s like, ‘Yeah, you get it!’
Do you have any plans to come back to Australia?
PY:Absolutely. We’re going to come back in February. Brad was talking about a couple of shows around then. By then I’ll have the other containers here; all the bikes will be here. We’ll be set to formally introduce Custom Central and for me to be a key role in showing my stuff as well. They’re going to be the source for the Paul Yaffe Products Down Under.
There’s also the fact that I just love it here. I was on the phone with Suzy, told her I could have a house here. Those hot summers when we want to get out of Phoenix … I wonder if we could figure out to come down here four months of the year. Wouldn’t bother me a bit, it’s beautiful here. Maybe that’ll be the next thing …
